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Destn
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posted October 14, 2005 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Destn   Click Here to Email Destn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a rat race, and the rats are winning!

People put up with this abuse because they believe there is no other choice. They let their bosses control their lives and decide how much money they're worth. Their time isn't their own - if you show up late, you get in trouble. But....if you work late, or take work home with you, it's taken for granted.

You hang on all week just so you can have control of your life for a few short hours over the weekend - then you have to start the same vicious cycle all over again.

Have you been spending all your time and energy trying to survive the rat race, only to discover that when you win the race you're still living like a rat?

Want out of the rat race?

Visit this website and follow these easy simple 3 steps
www.7kblessings.com

Step 1: Go to my website and fill out the simple interest form!
Step 2: Watch the Flash Compensation Presentation.
Step 3: Call this 35 minute recorded $7000.00 call 1-800-425-0126

If your genuinely interested in changing your financial situation with the best home business model in history. I will help you break free from the corporate rat race of living paycheck to paycheck and change your life to financial abundance.

Contact me personally. It could mean a financial breakthrough for you and your family.

Doug VanDeventer
850-243-4348
Ft Walton Beach, FL

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$7000.00 Over and Over and Over Again !!
www.7kblessings.com
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Ira
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posted October 15, 2005 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ira   Click Here to Email Ira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny - I just read the whole long page and not once does it say what you're supposed to be selling to do this. Sounds like something to hide (insurance sales maybe)

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Destn
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posted October 18, 2005 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Destn   Click Here to Email Destn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ira,

Thanks for posting. We have nothing to hide. Put your credit cards and your wallet away. We are here to inform you about a sincere Christian home business program where our main product is the "Millionaire Mindset Conference", that will have the Federal Express truck delivering you $7000.00 over and over again. I'm serious, no selling, no convincing, no cold calling. We show you how to effectively market.
Our team of Christians will support you. Please go through the three steps above and learn about our program. Then and only then will you be completely informed and able to decide if this is a match for you.

Sincerely,
Doug

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humblechef
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posted October 19, 2005 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for humblechef     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ira:
Funny - I just read the whole long page and not once does it say what you're supposed to be selling to do this. Sounds like something to hide (insurance sales maybe)


I thought this was a culinary web site and I think most members would expect the job opportunities listed to be culinary as well. can we have a separate area for non-culinary job lists?

thanks.

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Destn
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posted October 19, 2005 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Destn   Click Here to Email Destn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our organization is rooted upon a strong Christian foundation of principles and professionals. Since this forum is targeting a group of Christian culinary members, I felt my resources would be appropriate and welcomed. I feel that everyone including Christians would feel comforted that there are legitiment Christian home businesses that each of you to benefit financially from just as I have.

God bless everyone here and I thank you for allowing me to share.

I wish you all prosperity and would like to get to know each of you on a more personal level.

Sincerely,

Doug VanDeventer
Ft Walton Beach, FL

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Ira
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posted October 20, 2005 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ira   Click Here to Email Ira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi doug - sorry, but he's right. The "Job Listings" forum is solely for food-service related jobs, and I don't think that's part of what your listing is about (you still haven't said what it is). I'm just curious, if you aren't willing to say what it is you're trying to sell, how is that not hiding something?

Also could you explain to me the biblical thinking behind a "millionaire mindset"???

Thanks,
Ira

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Destn
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posted October 20, 2005 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Destn   Click Here to Email Destn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ira, regarding what we at Advantage Conferences promote, you may have missed it in my post number 3, see above.

Our Product: "The Millioniare Mindset Conference"

If you want to become a millionaire, you must first learn to think like a millionaire.

Our product is powerful information that bridges the gap between your current
financial status and where you truly desire to be. The Millionaire Mindset ConferenceSM is a one of a kind, two-day event where
Attendees absorb real-life stories, lessons, strategies and advice from bona-fide multi-
millionaires. Attendees gain powerful insight into the mind and action steps of
extraordinary people who have achieved Millionaire and/or Multi-Millionaire status. They discuss in detail subjects including: “BEFORE MY SUCCESS”; “WHAT I SAW & THOUGHT THAT OTHERS DIDN’T”; “MOST DIFFICULT
CHALLENGES”; “WHAT ARE MOST PEOPLE’S MISSING INGREDIENT?”, “HOW I BECAME A MILLIONAIRE”;
“BEST MANEUVERS I’VE MADE”; “THE GREATEST SECRET I CAN TELL YOU”; “MARKETING BUDGETS &
METHODS”, etc., followed by Q & A.
Content of the is specifically and unapologetically powerful information about the process of YOUR becoming a Millionaire in your own right - creating life-changing income. The subject matter is appropriate only for someone serious about earning a SIX or SEVEN DIGIT INCOME in the next 18 months or less. Our system is the star not the indivdual. This business model is like no other. We are not convincers and we do not make cold calls like most other home business opportunities.
We simply introduce our opportunity to others via our warm markets and the internet. Our Company is 100%legal, ethical, moral, professional, and most importantly, highly effective.

We believe seperating God from our business pursuits would be a mistake:

An abiding fundamental principle of our Company, Advantage Conferences is that people are our most important asset. We have, and will continue to emphasize and celebrate the intrinsic value of all people, and especially each person associated with us. Each person that hitches their wagon to the star of our ideals and progressive campaigns is created by God and has
infinite value and importance. Our business model has been constructed around satisfying and enhancing the financial conditions of our Reps, but there is much more that must be attended to. Our members have families. Most have children. Each family unit (including our singles) experiences crises, failure, sickness, loss, frustrations, and chaos to some extent at different times in the course of living life. I am aware of all of these things. It is for this reason that we make no small effort to guide our members in matters of spiritual growth and ethics. One small manifestation of that ongoing effort is our weekly publication of “The Messenger”. Each issue attempts to deliver to our members and subscribers Biblical truths that provide guidance and help in
virtually every facet of their lives.
There is no question that God has his hand in my life, and on this business, and that he amazingly watches over each of us minute by minute. He has His hand on you as well. He is our guide and companion on a daily basis, and for that I am personally humbled and grateful. It is important for you to understand that the business of Advantage Conferences is God’s business. And so -
in every policy we institute, every word we speak, and literally everything we do – we do so dedicated to amplifying His glory and not our own. I am awestruck by how God can use imperfect people like myself and our Reps to further His Kingdom, if we
will let Him. I don’t write this to impress you or lure you to our business. I do so to let you in on where I stand and how this Company operates. If you prefer a business to be secular, then you will find many of our competitors to be a better fit. If you find the idea that God is brought up on a regular basis, that He is our Guiding Hand, and that the truth of the Bible is our absolute guide to be unsettling, then you will probably not be very comfortable here. But the idea of separating God from one’s business is a serious mistake in judgment. Attempting to keep the Creator out of
that which He created is nonsense.
We indeed are resolute in creating profits and better financial situations for hundreds and even thousands of Reps. But we are more resolute in doing business correctly, with God as our guide, Jesus Christ as our model,
and constantly recognizing and delighting in the value of our people for their intrinsic worth. You are infinitely valuable. You are God’s child. I encourage you to live your life with that in mind. You will
be treated that way here.

God Bless
Doug VanDeventer
Ft Walton Beach, FL www.7kblessings.com


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Destn
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posted October 26, 2005 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Destn   Click Here to Email Destn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Your Keys To Wealth"

The "Advantage Conferences" Christian Home Business opportunity.

This is NOT your average Home Business. With God as our guide, Jesus Christ as our model, we constantly recognize and delight in the value of our people for their intrinsic worth!

If your genuinely interested in changing your financial situation with the best Christian Home Business model in history, you need to go through the 3 simple steps in this memo. You will be under no obligation by doing so. Again I stress, for you to really get a firm grasp of this Christ centered Home Business you must go through all 3 steps below. At that point you will be fully informed and you may contact me directly for further direction. Your information will be completely confidential. We do not sell or forward your information under any circumstances!!

The Advantage Conferences Home Business: $7000.00 Over & Over and, Over Again. Work from your home part time / full time. Simple 3 step system. Unlimited lead quality system. We have NO cold calling. Unlimited training assistance. Professionals close the sale. Not an MLM. A Christian based opportunity.


Important : Please read the following information before following through on each of the simple 3 steps.

(The 1st Step). If you haven't filled out my interest form yet, you need to do this first.

Go to www.7kblessings.com

Read to the bottom and fill out the simple interest form. You will receive the "Getting Started E-Pack" via email immediately following your request for information regarding Advantage Conferences business opportunity. This explains our program and your options. Be sure to read our Statement of Orientation on page 16. (Our success comes from a being rooted in faith!). We are a Christ centered organization!

(The 2nd Step). Please view our "Compensation Flash Presentation" That will explain how you will be getting paid. Don't be concerned if you don't grasp it during your first viewing. It took me about 5 times to really understand the power of it. I am including the following link for your convenience.
www.advantageconferences.com/rewards/7kflash
(The 3rd Step Option) Register for our 35 minute Live opportunity calls on Tuesday or Thursday evenings at 8PM Central and we also have them on Saturday at 2PM Central. You can register from the following link:
http://www.advantageconferences.com/rewards/7k_call.asp

Or, Or, Or, ....

You can also qualify for the 3rd step in our 3 step system by listening to our "recorded" $7000.00 opportunity call anytime.
Call 618-355-7402 for the 35 minute recorded $7,000 call. Note: Be sure to record your Name and City after the call to fulfill this (3rd step). Note: The 800 number in my first posting above for this 3rd step has been deactivated to be acitivated again soon.

I cant say enough about this incredible Christ centered opportunity. Four months involved with Advantage Conferences and I'm already seeing thousands of dollars being delivered to my front door without having to make even one cold call. The system is the star here not the individual. This program will bless you and my team and I are COMMITTED to supporting you !!! My partner and I made $14,000 dollars our first month and $40,000 dollars since May 2005.....NOT ONE COLD CALL WAS MADE!!

WARNING: Ignoring this memo, I promise you, will cost you a fortune in time, capital, and possibly important relationships.

I have seen a lot of half baked home business opportunities being that I've previously worked in the home based business arena. Our Business model is very, very different, from any other home based program. It's been proven and will bring you income sooner than later. It is completely legal, professional and ethical. You do not have to smile and dial for dollars, there is no cold calling with our program! We will show you how to market in many, many effective ways. You will have top notch support to getting you off to a fast start. You can work at your own pace and I would be happy to share my thoughts with you. Please contact me at your convenience. I am committed to assisting you on the track to an abundant lifestyle that will change the lives of you and your family.

It's important that you please contact me after you've been through the 3 simple steps above.

Call me anytime. If you get my voice mail please leave a brief message and I will contact you back.

To your success,

Doug VanDeventer
Advantage Conferences Pro-Rep IV
Home Business Entrepreneur
$7000.00 Over and Over and Over Again !!
Testimonials: http://www.yourkeystowealth.com/testimony.htm
850-243-4348
850-642-1108

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Bryguy
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posted October 26, 2005 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bryguy   Click Here to Email Bryguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Doug
I feel rather strange replying to this post as I honestly believe you are nothing more than a snake oil peddlar, using the Lord's name to authenticate your product. Not once have we heard what your business is other than a get rich scheme that is sure to also benefit you. I would like to ask how you can refer to each $1,000's as a blessing. It has been my experience that the sole pursuit of money is rooted in the misery of the men who set out on this path. I cannot recite a clever little biblical quote to substantiate my claims, ( my knowledge of the bible and the scriptures is very limited ) but somehow I can't help thinking of Judas and his 30 blessings. I guess he also believed that the pursuit of wealth would solve his problems. If I recall, he ended up hanging from an olive tree. I live each day wondering how I will pay the bills tomorrow, but I would not give this up for anything. I have seven blessings of my own but not one of them has a dollar sign in front of it.
To sum up my rant I would like to suggest that you put your earthly and spiritual goals in seperate baskets and remember
If we meet and you forget me, you have lost nothing, But if you meet Jesus Christ and you forget Him you have lost everything.
God Bless and I hope this makes sense to you
Bryguy

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Leo
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posted October 26, 2005 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to add that any "Christian" ad that includes a warning " that will cost you..." Is not in keeping with the preaching of Christ. Yes the Word is full of "If's " but they are meant to draw you closer to the Godly Fear of the Lord. We are TOLD to carry our daily cross in union with Him. Jesus was Rich became poor and in that He broke through by being obedient submissive and humble to His, and Our Father's will. We Follow Him! We do Kingdom work every day by building relationships and bring people to Jesus by those same attributes and hard work. The Holy Spirit gives us the ability to do so. We don't *get rich* so we can spend money on *good works* Go deeper into the Word. We pray you will see.
Brother you have struck the rock if you believe God desired you to do so...Remember what happened to Moses when he struck again. Christ warned us about things of this world which we are committed to be vigilant about. Read Mark 4. I pray you see and hear Him only. Discern where you are coming from. Ask Him to show you the truth. We are IN the world NOT OF the world...Amen?
Our Father will not be used. I personally do not want your money. I want His riches in Christ Jesus.
Vaya con Dios...Go with God.

Hungry for Him ONLY,
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posted October 29, 2005 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Destn   Click Here to Email Destn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thank you all for your comments in this post. May you all prosper in your own right in tune with the love of Christ.

Understanding Prosperity:

Throughout the Word, God plainly shows that His will is for His covenant people to have a surplus of prosperity. He promised to make Abraham rich, and the promise of Abraham is ours today (Galatians 3:13-14; Genesis 17:6). Galatians 3:13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree"), 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith . God's will is prosperity for you - spirit, soul and body.

I want to share with you what true Bible prosperity is and how to apply it to your own life. We encourage you to look up each of the following scriptures as a basis for your own study.

1. What Is Prosperity?

Matthew 6:33 "But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you." James 2:14-17 ; John 14:21; 2 Corinthians 9:9

True prosperity is the ability to use God's ability and power to meet the needs of mankind - regardless of what those needs may be.

2. Spiritual Prosperity

Romans 8:2; Luke 4:18, 6:27-38

Spiritual prosperity is freedom from the law of sin and death. To be born again and filled with the Holy Spirit puts you in the position to receive from God all the things promised in His Word.

3. Mental Prosperity

2 Corinthians 10:5; 3 John 2-4; Philippians 4:7;
1 Thessalonians 5:14

To prosper mentally (in your soul), you must be able to control your mind, your will and your emotions. Prosperity of the mind comes when you use the knowledge you have accumulated from the Word of God - when you are taking control of your mind, instead of allowing your mind to control you.

4. Physical Prosperity

1 Peter 2:24 who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness — by whose stripes you were healed.; Mark 16:15 And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. "He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. "And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new languages , "they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover." ; Luke 6:38 "Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you."; 2 Corinthians 9:8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for every good work.

Physical prosperity is twofold - health and wealth. Jesus redeemed us from the curse of the Law - sickness, poverty and death (Deuteronomy 28:15-61). Health and wealth belong to the believer. Meditation on the Word and acting on the Word will bring results (Joshua 1:8). When you act on the Word, mix your faith with it and do not doubt in your heart, the Word will work for you.

What produces spiritual, mental and physical prosperity? What brings all these areas together? The Word of God.

Hebrews 4:12 says the Word is alive, powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword. It divides the soul and the spirit, the joints and the marrow, and knows the thoughts and intents of the heart. When you are walking in the Word of God, you will prosper and be in health.

We cannot settle for prosperity in the physical or the mental realm only, just as we cannot settle for spiritual prosperity alone. We can't afford to be lazy and to discount physical and mental prosperity simply because we are saved and filled with the Holy Spirit. It is God's will for us to be made whole - spirit, soul and body - and to be kept that way until the return of our Lord Jesus Christ (1 Thessalonians 5:23).

As you walk in the light of God's Word, you will become prosperous in every area of your life.

A Confession of the Prosperous Life

Father, in the Name of Jesus, I confess that Your Word reigns over every area of my life. Because of that, I live a prosperous life. I thank You that You liberally supply and fill to the fullest measure every need according to Your riches in glory by Christ Jesus. According to Deuteronomy 8:18, You give the power to get wealth in order to establish Your covenant. So as an act of my faith, I receive that power to work in my life.

I confess before You that I am a giver. As I give abundantly of my increase, I know that You will make all grace, every favor and earthly blessing, come to me in abundance so that I am always, under all circumstances and whatever the need, totally self-sufficient, possessing enough to require no aid or support, and furnished in abundance for every good work and charitable donation.

Father, I thank You that Your angels are free to minister for me and bring in the necessary finances so that I can continue to be generous to Your work. It is written that Your angels have been sent to minister for heirs of salvation, so I loose them now to work in my behalf.

I confess today that I am redeemed from the curse of poverty. I resist lack and say that it has no place in me: The Lord is my shepherd and I do not want. Abundance is mine. Success is mine. The blessings of the Lord are mine. I confess it and thank You for it, in Jesus Name.

Confession References: Philippians 4:19; 2 Corinthians 9:8; Hebrews 1:14; Psalm 23:1

Doug VanDeventer
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tyronebcookin
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posted October 29, 2005 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tyronebcookin   Click Here to Email tyronebcookin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...prosperity and wealth are of a debatable nature. God's word never puts a dollar amount to it, not even in Jabez's prayer.

Wealth is only interpreted by the indiviudal...whom most in the 'name it claim it' will be the first to attach it to financial gain/wealth.

The Lord's word tells you many times in Proverbs and other places quick wealth/get rich quick schemes/plans are no part of the believers life.

The Lord's word also tells us it is harder (but not impossible) for a (wealthy/financially/materialistically) rich person person to get in to heaven than a camel thru the eye of a needle.

The Lord can Bless you, prosper you, in any way He sees fit and in multiple ways...the Beattitudes can give you a good base of what true riches can be, also the riches we store in heaven.

Even though the Lord may bless (financially) who he wants for whatever work they do (the parable of the workers that were paid the same that only worked the last hour - because who are we to judge who the Lord blesses?) it does not mean we can take his word and interpret it into a prosperity money truth. The Lords word talks about wealth and prosperity, TRUE, but not in terms of dollars...that is the interpretation of man.

BUT BESIDES ALL THAT, why can't we just have a general description of what your oppurtunity entails and how we will be able to make this money? Why must it all be secretive and we have to jump thru hoops like a dog being trained before we can have a summary of the 'payoff' or how exactly this 'job' works????? HMMM?

If you want all your Christian brothers to be a success with you...then why not tell us how? And not work us like a secretive telemarketer?

Out with the truth...and wisdom will prove right by her actions.

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Leo
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posted October 31, 2005 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amen...So where is the Cross? Jesus was nailed to a Cross..not hanged from a tree...I believe that was Judas Iscariot...correct me if I am wrong...

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posted November 01, 2005 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for humblechef     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doug,

This is a culinary website for Christian chefs...we have chosen our careers as chefs.
Does your product help chefs be better cooks? Do you have any products for kitchens or cooking, or restaurants, or recipes? If so,Please just tell us what the product is, how much it costs, how much the training costs and what it will do for us as chefs. Aside from that, maybe there are other more suitable websites.

I wish you well.

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posted November 01, 2005 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ira   Click Here to Email Ira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now that this post is out of the "Job Listings" category and into the "Classifieds" I think this is actually a good conversation to be having on the Message Boards here - not as us being Chefs and him for whatever it is, but rather for the theological reality of God's will for our personal and financial motives.

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posted November 03, 2005 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's all about OUr Lord Jesus...and HIm working through our lives...Amen?

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posted April 28, 2006 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jance   Click Here to Email Jance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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To your success,

Doug VanDeventer
Advantage Conferences Pro-Rep IV
Home Business Entrepreneur
$7000.00 Over and Over and Over Again !!
Testimonials: http://www.yourkeystowealth.com/testimony.htm
850-243-4348
850-642-1108


I joined this forum for one reason only and that is to expose this guy for who he REALLY is. I've known him for a very long time and he is a downed-and-out crackhead here in FWB who can't hold a job and has lost nearly all he owns to crack. He's nothing more than a phoney loser and his Christianity is a farce.

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